november 11 is remembrance day in canada.
i believe it's called veteran's day in the us.
is this anniversary of the end of ww1 recognized in other countries?
Anybody ever heard of World War 1? The "Great War"? 1914-1918? Hello?Historians do lament the fact that this war has for the most part been forgotten. Maybe this means more to Canadians than most, since WW1 was a major milestone in the history of our country.
In fact we lost more soldiers in WW1 than we did in the next one.
Who cares, right? A couple hundred thousand less boring Canadians.
Dan
Okay, nobody cares about this. That's okay.
Here is the answer:
Qualified to Be Ministers published in 1967, by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society had this to say about the Association:
"Such a corporation came into legal existence February 23, 1909, and was named People's Pulpit Association. Thirty years later, in 1939, the name was changed to its present one, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Inc." [pg. 309]
So there you have it. This People's Pulpit association which according to the WT society "tended to establish a religious sect centered around a man" was in fact the same corporation that is around today. Except now they "establish a religious sect" centered around an organization. Par for the course, I guess.
Okay, I'll go away now.
Dan
i mean, the world is still here and all.
i'm just wondering if i missed the financial collapse of every major economy.. it was supposed to happen in october right?.
could someone update me?.
Obviously it happened just like he prophecied. Clearly we can see that it's invisible. Thinking people in this modern age just have to exercise faith and take in accurate knowledge. blah blah blah...
Dan
You're on the right track. Here's a hint:
God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in 1973 had this to say concerning the issue of idolizing C.T. Russell:
"This view was prominently featured in the book published in July of 1917 by the People's Pulpit Association of Brooklyn, New York. This book was called "The Finished Mystery" and furnished a commentary of the Bible books of Revelation and Ezekiel and The Songs of Solomon. On its Publishers page the book was called the "Posthumous Works of Pastor Russell." Such a book and religious attitude tended to establish a religious sect centered around a man" [pg 347]
Dan
Ever hear of this?
Dan
november 11 is remembrance day in canada.
i believe it's called veteran's day in the us.
is this anniversary of the end of ww1 recognized in other countries?
November 11 is Remembrance Day in Canada. I believe it's called Veteran's Day in the US. Is this anniversary of the end of WW1 recognized in other countries? If so, what's it called?
Just curious...
Dan
my parents just called and told me that the elders were going to forbid my sister to have her wedding in the hall, and refused an elder to give the talk because we were going to be in it.
there is no reason for this because we are not df'd or da'd.
i think my dad is going to type out his da letter tonite, he was so pissed.. to all active jw's who post here!!!.
ashitaka,
The same thing happened to me with my first marriage. We were both in "good standing" but were not allowed to use the hall to get married. It was a control issue. I had bumped heads with the elders about a few minor issues, and this was there way of showing me who the boss was. We ended up getting married in City Hall, and besides immediate family, no one showed up.
The irony of the whole thing was that I used to be a regular contributer, dropping in $50 and $100 bills on a regular basis. I also volunteered for any and every project around the KH. I was there for them all. After that happened, I did not drop 1 red cent in the box, and I never helped around the hall again. I figured after 20 years of supporting that place, the least I could get was 45 minutes to use the place for my wedding.
I remember one time it was our book studies turn to clean the hall. One of the elders came up to me as I was leaving and made some comment about doing my part to clean the hall. Man, if looks could kill I would have vaporized him where he stood!! It never came up again.
Dan
i think everyone is missing the point by trying to argue for and against the wtbts using words and "logical argument".
clearly, god did not want the truth to be obvious and, scripturally, it is apparent that it would not be.
jesus said that only "a few" would find the truth in these last days.
Alienone,
"If people choose the "wrong" religion, they obvioulsy do not want what the Bible offers, and therefore will not get it."
Do you think anybody really chooses the wrong religion? Does anybody conscientiously choose anything "wrong" for themselves?
As for the statement "obviously", who is this obvious to? I always hated the way the Wt inserted that word ALL THE TIME to make their point.
On another note...
Mysterious Ways is a TV show on PAX. Anybody ever watch it? It's on tonight at 9:00 pm Eastern
Sorry for going OT...
Dan
just for comparison's sake, how do the modern bible students view jehovah's witnesses today?
see by yourself at http://www.food4jws.org/.
it's rather interesting.... l.
Very interesting post. That site claims that Russell was not the founder of JW's, but of the Bible students. They may have a point there. The Judge was the real architect of the mess we now know as the JWs.
Interesting....
Dan
when i started associating in the late 1960s the jws were very sociable and had frequent fun events.
here are some examples of the kinds of events we enjoyed, why they existed, and then the reason they were taken away:.
sports: being involved in school or professional sports was frowned upon, so the brothers in the hall would arrange for sports for every other weekend.
Hi Runningman,
"Youth Watchtower Study. My congregation, back in the early 80's, had a number
of young people who got together weekly to study their Watchtower, and have a
little gathering afterward. It was shut down by official word from the Society. It was
possible for it to become a forum for independent ideas."
The exact same thing happened where I live. Funny thing was, there were MS's and pioneers there too. The exact same reason was used. If I remember correctly that was in 1983. It was too bad, because it was really good chance to associate with people our own age (early 20's). Seems you couldn't associate with people outside the JWs OR inside. And they wonder why young people leave!!
Dan
(I notice you are from Canada too. Maybe we were at those gatherings together!!)
